David was my cello teacher for the last year and a half of my CSUN education, and before that, he coached me in chamber music, conducted the orchestra, led the opera pit ensemble, and taught my first two semesters of music theory. To say he has had an impact on my life is a wild understatement. Now retired from his work as a professor, he has turned his focus to the world of Celtic music. I hope this episode bolsters any musician looking to get into so-called alternative styles but fears the improvisation part. We talk brass tacks about how to get started on this path, and at the end, stay tuned for a full track from Joyce and David’s new album, New Roads.